I am curious as to what you guys think….

Posted: February 18, 2015 in Uncategorized
  1. Disgusting, despicable. Not much to say otherwise

  2. salehqadi says:

    “Viva Palestine”.

  3. Marah Tarawneh says:

    As we used to say last term, Jews experienced “immoral treatments” and they are still experiencing similar treatments in some parts of the world. The argument is, once someone is treated in the most immortal way, then there’s really no place for judging the morality of their reactions.”If I am not for myself, who will be for me? And if not now, when?” -Hillel the Elder. However, why didn’t it trigger a sympathetic feeling? Since they know how it feels to be treated immorally, then they should understand how Palestinians feel, and shouldn’t impose similar experiences on them! Maybe the trauma was damaging to the point where not only morality was destroyed but any possible positive human reactions with outsiders was destroyed as well. However, I still can’t help but wonder if sympathy was ever one of the options.

  4. Rashed Abdulhak says:

    At first, I felt that he deserves it, then I thought, wouldn’t I hate it if I was mocked in the streets for being a Muslim? However, I did like when they said “Viva Palestine.” It didn’t really offend but it did show dislike to his government.

    • eunsoljun15 says:

      Would you have constrained your negative thoughts of him deserving the rude remarks because of empathetic reasons? What if that person is also pro-Palestine but just holds that religious Jewish identity?

      • Mallak Al Husban says:

        I strongly agree with what Eun said. How can we judge people and others by their appearances? just because he’s wearing a kippah doesn’t mean that he supports whatever Israel does.

      • eunsoljun15 says:

        Mallak, do you ever wonder why we are obsessed with drawing borders with one another, and discriminating each other? I think this takes us back to the idea of Orientalism. To the Europeans, it was much easier for them to identify themselves through shaping the Orient and comparing themselves to the inferior “other”. Do you think we achieve happiness from comparing us to others?

      • Mallak Al Husban says:

        Of course not, drawing more boarders create more conflicts among people. Why can’t we see each other as humans rather than enemies. Why can’t we look at that Jewish guy and be apologetic of what he has to go through every single day for being who he is, for exposing his identity. Why does fear have to take over our mentalities and perspectives. Once we start seeing each other as humans, then we can start seeing our future of coexisting together being formed or at least start to form

      • Rashed says:

        How would a normal person in the street know that? Very few Jews are pro Palestine, don’t believe everything you hear. The ones that tell you they are pro Palestine are probably so liberal they don’t even count as Jews. The equivalent would be somebody saying they are a Muslim and never praying.

  5. abbyhungate says:

    The hate that these people have towards this man is not towards him himself but towards zionism. This video really shows how rude and disrespectful people can be about religions. It also shows how uneducated people are about religions and stereotypes and how if someone does something bad or that you disagree with and that person is religious, then people automatically hate everyone with that religion. You can never blame a religion but only the people doing the acts. It’s actually quite surprising that discrimination like this happened everyday and that a man simply walking on the street can get harassed so much.

    • Aziz Sbeih says:

      I agree you with what you said, its the lack of education that prompts those people to harass the man because they believe he’s directly linked to Zionism, when in fact, he just might be Jewish person with no support whatsoever to Israel. He has to suffer for the actions of a few radical Zionists in Palestine, when in fact he is totally innocent. Likewise, the lack of education also accounts for the Western bias against Muslims and how many Muslims are viewed as threats and terrorists, when in fact it is only the actions of few radical Muslims that tarnished the image of the whole religion. Awareness, tolerance, and education must become more widespread and prevalent if we are to live in a world that is free from racism.

  6. Lilia Smyth says:

    This video, and the continued prevalence of anti-semitism it represents, just shows how people inherently connect Judaism with the actions of the state of Israel. This is especially shown by the boy who says ‘Viva Palestine” to the man. The fact is that none of these people knew anything about the man other than the fact that he was Jewish – and it was assumed that this made him a Zionist. Much of this hatred is also likely just plain anti-semitism, but it is more complex than it seems. Anti-Semitic sentiment is rather cyclic; Jews have historically faced extreme persecution, there’s no question, then with the creation of Israel as a Jewish State, people naturally associate it with the religion. However, this also causes people to associate the actions of the Israeli State (human rights violations, brutal military strategy, etc.) with the Jewish faith, causing anti-semitism to fester.

    • Aziz Sbeih says:

      Yes you’re right, many of what seemed to be Arabs cussed the man for being Jewish, as they presumed him to be a Zionist, and the lack of education helps cloud the comprehension of both of these terms. However, not all people who harassed the Jewish man were Arabs and Muslims, many of them seem to be natives, and that goes back to the fact that antisemitism is still very prominent in Europe. Historically, Europeans have never had a good relationship with Jews; they have always persecuted them for simple reasons, and I believe this was passed on to from older generations, and that the animosity towards Jews from Europeans still exists.

  7. Jude Hadadeen says:

    I believe people should learn the difference between being a Jew, a Zionist, and an Israeli. They are quite different and the world should not generalize and put these three terms under one umbrella. A Jew is one that follows Judaism – Jews existed for thousands of years, while a Zionist is one that believes in the Zionist Movement that is a relatively new movement that focuses on the idea of “changing the nature of the Jewish people from that of a religious entity to a political movement.”

    • abbyhungate says:

      I agree with you Jude. I think that the issue is people are uneducated on different religions and the different branches. People clump everyone under one religion together when people have different mind sets and believe different things. It’s an issue of understanding that everyone is a human being and is different in what they believe. It is hard to find a solution to this, but living in a diverse area, and being exposed to people of different beliefs will discourage people from just making assumptions.

    • While the lack of education is an issue, antisemitism has been a systemic problem for years and years, there is only so much someone can be educated if they were raised and bred to hate Jews. Not just zionists, not just Israelis, but Jews.

  8. eunsoljun15 says:

    This really made me think of a term we took in psychology: mental set. Mental set is a framework that we use to solve problems or a framework where we base our thoughts. Here, the people showed in the video had that mental set of “every Jew must be a Zionist”. Being a Jew isn’t a crime, isn’t anyone’s fault, and isn’t something we should use as some excuse to abuse humanity. Just like Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, and any other spiritual followers, Jewish people have a way of living, following the ideals of Judaism. With the cruel actions follows a label, and with that label follows uneducated and ignorant groupings. Humanity needs to realize one day that not all actions need labels.

  9. I am slightly confused at this. A lot of comments above assume that people were harassing the man with the kippah because they associated him with Zionism. I want to know if that really is true. Is there anti-Zionism in France? Do these people actually know about Palestine? Are they with Palestine, and is that why they are against Zionism, and ignorantly against Jews in general?

    What I assumed was that it was not anti-Zionism, but just plain old Antisemitism.

    Also, I was surprised to see that there were this much discrimination in France. Why is that? How is it like in the rest of Western Europe?

    • I don’t think it was all anti-Zionist. There were some instances in which he was passing by some Arabs, who threw a number of insults around, and they probably would have assumed he was Zionist because of the yarmulke. However, there were other incidents in which he was insulted for just being a Jew. You don’t say much about Palestine and Israel when you call someone a faggot – one of the Frenchman used this insult. At the end of the day, whether it was mixing up Judaism and Zionism or simply antisemitism, it’s unjustifiable.

    • Aziz Sbeih says:

      Yes it is true, many people living in France are immigrants from North Africa, meaning that they’re Arabs, and some do hold animosity towards Jews as they don’t differentiate between Jews and Zionists. This is evident because most of the people who harassed the Jew in the video were Arabs, and one of them said Viva Palestine to the Jew. However, antisemitism in Europe is not due to anti-Zionism, it may be the case for Arabs of course, but not necessarily for Europeans. Historically, Europeans have persecuted Jews for hundreds of years, and Jews have only found refuge in Muslim land. This discrimination has been passed on by generations, even after the destruction of the Nazis, and it still exists all over Europe, surprisingly publicly as well, as many Neo-Nazi groups coordinate large scale protests in Europe and declare their hatred to Jews on the streets, in addition to day to day harassment by normal European citizens to Jews.

  10. Ramy El Baghir says:

    Anti-semitism has existed in the world for centuries (especially in Europe), and its saddening to see that in such a diverse place as Paris there is still this hatred to a whole religion and its followers.

  11. farah sinokrot says:

    It is crucial for people to differentiate between an Israeli a Jewish and a Zionist but people associate all the terms as a point of unity against the other. however, defining the terms and differentiating between them is very important because Israeli is the newly establish country in Palestinian territory. secondly, to be a Jewish is to be part of the Jewish country. thirdly, a Zionist is a Its general definition means the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel.

    • Mallak Al Husban says:

      blaming all the Jews for what Israel is doing is like blaming all the Muslims for the actions of ISIS and all whites for what KKK did. Generalization yields nothing but chaos and separation between people.

  12. nizar qadadeh says:

    Throughout my life i have encountered many people who do not find a difference between jews, Israelis and zionists. Learn the difference people! The differences should be learnt and distinguished. Just like muslims you wouldn’t want people to call you ISIS But thats just how people are. We need to get rid of stereotypes and accept one another.

    • Mallak Al Husban says:

      And in order to do so, we must initiate a change and most importantly a change in the education system. We have to insert this sense of community and harmony between one another. Educating the younger generation is one step towards creating peace and justice.

  13. Zaid Khalaf says:

    Since they know how it feels to be treated immorally, then they should understand how Palestinians feel, and shouldn’t impose similar experiences on them

    • Mallak Al Husban says:

      What if that man does understand what the Palestinians go through and feel? how did you come up with this assumption without knowing the guy or anything about him?

      • khaleel abdel razeq says:

        Mallak, I visited these kind of people, but to be honest they are fully aware of what is happening to the Palestinians, but they just neglect it and ignore it, so do you think that they are raised in a way where they know what the Palestinians are going through, but they just live in huge ignorance and denial towards what they’re doing to them.

  14. Zaid Khalaf says:

    there were some instances in which he was passing by some Arabs, who threw a number of insults around, and they probably would have assumed he was Zionist because of the yarmulke.

  15. Yasmine Malas says:

    Definitely agree with Eun and many others when they say that we are too quick to jump to conclusions about the values a person holds despite their religious occupation. Practicing Judaism is no way means that you intend harm to Palestinians or anyone for that matter. Practicing Judaism is practicing a religion, something that brings somebody peace between themselves and God. However, whether or not this man is pro-Palestinian still does not validate the remarks he is receiving for merely (and silently) walking the streets of Paris. He is minding his own business, nobody what his personal views are. He isn’t provoking anger, or running around town shoving pro-Israeli, or in his case, pro-Judaism, proverbs down people’s throats. If this video was a question of harm and terrorism, I say it’s the people who are spitting such despicable remarks at his face that constitute as the terrorists rather than vice versa.

    • Nevean Dekaidek says:

      Ya I agree with you by walking on the street he is not “asking for it.” If “asking for it” means walking on the street minding your own business then the harassment by the people around him are not just. He is not emphasizing his Zionist beliefs nor is he doing any harm to his surroundings, so this simply portrays the uneducated mindset of people.

  16. I believe the reason for this ‘confusion’ is, as a number of you have said, in education. The schools I attended before high school weren’t as strict in choosing their teachers as King’s might be. In the rare case that the Israeli-Palestinian issue was discussed, I would hear “those Jews this, the Jews that, etc.” Luckily, as a child, I didn’t really care much for what my teachers said. Herein lies the problem: it may be the older generation that views the two as one, but it is that older generation that educates the younger one. Sometimes it’s more subtle. There’s a play called “I Never Saw Another Butterfly” that was performed here at King’s and is about Jews during WWII. There were some people who weren’t too happy about the fact that King’s was putting on this play. Interestingly enough, most of the people upset by it didn’t actually see it. It’s a subtle but existing mentality that, if not stopped, will just keep moving down the coming generations.

  17. Ahmed Al-Nabhani says:

    It is clear that the hatred toward Jews has still not fully, disappeared in Europe because there are lots of people that have disrespected the man in the video just because he is a Jew. This shows that what we have studied during term 1, has still not left Europe even though they say so.

  18. This video illustrates the antisemitic tendencies of many European countries that have been present for almost a century. Antisemitism is not a new issue and these people use recent events to justify their hatred.

    • Daniel Leal says:

      I believe your last statement is incredibly powerful and holds within it truth, “not a new issue and these people use recent events to justify their hatred.” The Jews have been discriminated in against in Europe for at least half a millennium if not more. Not only does this sentence reveal the real nature of most conflicts but it also emphasizes why history is so important because at the end of the day it is the manner in which we understand many of the conflicts we face, conflicts which have unfortunately been passed down to us and not solely of our making, quite an instance of organic causality.

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